Monday, November 21, 2005
Stupid Discourse From Popular Talking Heads
Ahhh, the acrimony of honest debate. You know, a lot of people are not pleased with the tone of the debate raging on capital hill nowadays, but I like it just fine. I’m amused that FOX News has no problems broadcasting lies in a Goebbels-like fashion 24/7/365 but most of the “journalists” there are abhorred at the biliousness of the debate. A whole lot of parents apparently taught their kids growing up that as long are you are well groomed and well spoken you can slip a skiv into your enemy’s ribs and not have to worry about the morality of it. But God forbid you should yell at the person. That’s just not polite.
Speaking of biliousness, I’ve got Misquote on. I might also call him Talking Points, because if you want to know what was in the D.C. Talkers Talking Points that went out from the Republican National Committee yesterday just tune in to what Hannity is saying. Maybe I’ll use both names.
The Talking Point du jour is that Bill Clinton and a lot of Democrats said Saddam Hussein had WMDs in 1843 so that justified that ridiculous October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate. What Bill Clinton said years before the case is of so little relevance I will not linger on this asinine argument. An NBC poll recently said that 57% of the people in this country are convinced the president lied about WMD in Iraq. But the spineless Democratic Party is not daring to raise a voice and call for an impeachment, even if they don’t have the votes. Some bloated war veteran and Democrat calls for a rapid pullout and this makes news. I will say this about Murtha: he was right. The American people are way out in front of congress on this one.
I’ve considered sending Misquote’s boss a letter suggesting they replace him with a twenty-minute recording of RNC talking points yelled through a bullhorn. Just something to think about.
Talking Points is yapping on about Clinton now. Apparently, he’s everywhere. I haven’t seen Clinton in any news recently. These conservatives get so red-in-the-face about a popular former democratic president that they see him everywhere. They blame him five damned years after he left office for everything from bad intelligence on Iraq to global warming. Conservatives a hundred years from now will be blaming Clinton for some problem, I guarantee that. Do any of you ever remember the Clinton supporters blaming Reagan and Bush the Elder for problems he was suffering?
There is this stupid talking point going around that no liberal seems able to put to bed. I heard Dennis Kuchinich debate Misquote and it was painful to listen to (this was 11/18, I think). It was like listening to a retarded 30-year-old argue with a stubborn 10-year-old. Misquote wheeled out, among others, the old canard that if you don’t support the war you don’t support the troops.
America is apparently so traumatized from its own treatment of its veterans after Vietnam that people are deathly afraid of even being accused of not supporting the troops. I think its time for an injection of personal responsibility here. Every soldier has upon his/her shoulders personal responsibility for all of his or her actions. Just like any other human being. Sometimes, in some ways, its ok not to support the troops. If US troops began rounding up Sunni Muslims in Iraq and crowding them into gas chambers would we support our troops then?
Of course not. We all feel the need to support troops fighting a war they didn’t ask for in a far-off, worthless, dusty nation. I’m, frankly, not concerned about it. First of all, the men really responsible for the troop’s position are all in the White House and the Pentagon. I’ll let those bastard lose sleep. Secondly, most troops are conservative: they voted for Bush, they believed in the war, and they are still pretty positive about the reasons for war. Many actually in Iraq are convinced it’s a fool’s errand, but their morale isn’t effected by what newspapers say: they sweep over the same territory over and over again, occasionally hitting IEDs that blow their up-armored Hum-Vees to shreds, then interrogating the locals about who buried the 100-pound charge only to find that no one saw anything. Newspaper editorials don’t matter.
Frankly, I’m ashamed I even have to rebut this “support the troops” argument. Any abridgement of debate or discussion about the righteousness of this war is a simple tactic of the clumsiest fascists. Twelve-year-old schoolyard bullies have better justifications than this. Instead of debating in the realm of ideas, as Rush Limbaugh says he does, conservatives unearth every argument they can think of to silence debate and dissent: support the troops, don’t undermine the president in a time of war, this discussion is just obstructionism, you name it.
Most of this offensive rhetoric escapes from the closed minds of media conservatives who don’t actually hold office. These fucktards are popular debaters of politics who are to real political discourse what Paris Hilton is to real acting: an inexplicably popular rancid imitation. I put Hilton, one of the most popular people of her day, in the same category as Lindsay Lohan, Jessica Simpson, Rush Limbaugh (#1 radio host in U.S.), and Sean Hannity (#2 radio host in U.S.): a shining example of pop culture. I enjoy pop culture as an ever-changing effervescent expression of people’s dreams and interests until one of two things happens: a particular element gets over-exposed, or a particular element takes itself too seriously.
Speaking of biliousness, I’ve got Misquote on. I might also call him Talking Points, because if you want to know what was in the D.C. Talkers Talking Points that went out from the Republican National Committee yesterday just tune in to what Hannity is saying. Maybe I’ll use both names.
The Talking Point du jour is that Bill Clinton and a lot of Democrats said Saddam Hussein had WMDs in 1843 so that justified that ridiculous October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate. What Bill Clinton said years before the case is of so little relevance I will not linger on this asinine argument. An NBC poll recently said that 57% of the people in this country are convinced the president lied about WMD in Iraq. But the spineless Democratic Party is not daring to raise a voice and call for an impeachment, even if they don’t have the votes. Some bloated war veteran and Democrat calls for a rapid pullout and this makes news. I will say this about Murtha: he was right. The American people are way out in front of congress on this one.
I’ve considered sending Misquote’s boss a letter suggesting they replace him with a twenty-minute recording of RNC talking points yelled through a bullhorn. Just something to think about.
Talking Points is yapping on about Clinton now. Apparently, he’s everywhere. I haven’t seen Clinton in any news recently. These conservatives get so red-in-the-face about a popular former democratic president that they see him everywhere. They blame him five damned years after he left office for everything from bad intelligence on Iraq to global warming. Conservatives a hundred years from now will be blaming Clinton for some problem, I guarantee that. Do any of you ever remember the Clinton supporters blaming Reagan and Bush the Elder for problems he was suffering?
There is this stupid talking point going around that no liberal seems able to put to bed. I heard Dennis Kuchinich debate Misquote and it was painful to listen to (this was 11/18, I think). It was like listening to a retarded 30-year-old argue with a stubborn 10-year-old. Misquote wheeled out, among others, the old canard that if you don’t support the war you don’t support the troops.
America is apparently so traumatized from its own treatment of its veterans after Vietnam that people are deathly afraid of even being accused of not supporting the troops. I think its time for an injection of personal responsibility here. Every soldier has upon his/her shoulders personal responsibility for all of his or her actions. Just like any other human being. Sometimes, in some ways, its ok not to support the troops. If US troops began rounding up Sunni Muslims in Iraq and crowding them into gas chambers would we support our troops then?
Of course not. We all feel the need to support troops fighting a war they didn’t ask for in a far-off, worthless, dusty nation. I’m, frankly, not concerned about it. First of all, the men really responsible for the troop’s position are all in the White House and the Pentagon. I’ll let those bastard lose sleep. Secondly, most troops are conservative: they voted for Bush, they believed in the war, and they are still pretty positive about the reasons for war. Many actually in Iraq are convinced it’s a fool’s errand, but their morale isn’t effected by what newspapers say: they sweep over the same territory over and over again, occasionally hitting IEDs that blow their up-armored Hum-Vees to shreds, then interrogating the locals about who buried the 100-pound charge only to find that no one saw anything. Newspaper editorials don’t matter.
Frankly, I’m ashamed I even have to rebut this “support the troops” argument. Any abridgement of debate or discussion about the righteousness of this war is a simple tactic of the clumsiest fascists. Twelve-year-old schoolyard bullies have better justifications than this. Instead of debating in the realm of ideas, as Rush Limbaugh says he does, conservatives unearth every argument they can think of to silence debate and dissent: support the troops, don’t undermine the president in a time of war, this discussion is just obstructionism, you name it.
Most of this offensive rhetoric escapes from the closed minds of media conservatives who don’t actually hold office. These fucktards are popular debaters of politics who are to real political discourse what Paris Hilton is to real acting: an inexplicably popular rancid imitation. I put Hilton, one of the most popular people of her day, in the same category as Lindsay Lohan, Jessica Simpson, Rush Limbaugh (#1 radio host in U.S.), and Sean Hannity (#2 radio host in U.S.): a shining example of pop culture. I enjoy pop culture as an ever-changing effervescent expression of people’s dreams and interests until one of two things happens: a particular element gets over-exposed, or a particular element takes itself too seriously.
# posted by BitterHarvest @ 8:15 PM 
