Friday, December 09, 2005
Victor. Again.
Yet another vile missive from Victor.
I think that if I ever actually met Victor at a cocktail party I would beat him like a dog with mange. I am honestly that tired of reading his hideously tendentious articles.
This particular one is so filled with lies that I wonder if he sat down with that intention in mind or if he is so disconnected from reality that this is a true reflection of the furniture of Hanson’s mind: chairs with three legs, tables nailed to the ceiling, and paintings hung upside-down.
AT first I think that perhaps Victor’s medication is finally kicking in, as he gives a summary of Clinton’s career that lurches its way towards being truthful, with only the occasional stumble:
Bill Clinton frustrated Republican critics. He passed welfare reform, waged a pre-emptive war against Slobodan Milosevic without either the approval of Congress or the United Nations, and reined in federal spending. And so, anguished conservatives had a hard times proving that, despite these accomplishments, he was a tax-and-spend bleeding heart.
Keep going, Victor. Almost, you pustulent, scabrous monster. Your burbling food-orifice almost mouthed the truth: Bill Clinton was a judicious, centrist president and the Republicans hated him just for being a Democrat. Say it. SAY IT!
Of course, the Evil Victor hasn’t quite given up his control of the food-orifice yet. The Evil Victor tosses in that little barb trying to equate the Balkans with Iraq. Nevermind that the war was conducted with the authorization and participation of NATO, that no US ground forces were ever used, that Slobodan Milosevic said he would and then tried to destroy the KLA and conquer Kosovo. That the war lasted six weeks. That we won with almost invisible casualties. That every European government was grateful for our participation.
The problem is Victor Davis Hanson can’t stop lying, even when he’s trying to be fair. He goes on to completely lose track of reality:
In the same sort of way, a detested-by-the-left George W. Bush has driven Democrats even crazier.
You noxious, raunchy cur. You wouldn’t tell the truth if you were rendered to Syria and beaten with cables. Your blood-soaked fore pincer just won’t write the truth. Democrats and independents don’t hate Dubya because they’re partisan. They hate him because he is perhaps the worst president in the long, sad history of this nation, and most of them have been bad. In fact, let’s diverge a little bit. Let’s take a look at what 80% of historians had to say in a recent survey about W, who they consider to be one of the worst presidents in history:
I think the presidency of George W. Bush has been generally a failure and I consider his presidency so far to have been the most disastrous since that of Ronald Reagan--because of the unconscionable military aggression and spending (especially the Iraq War), the damage done to the welfare of the poor while the corporate rich get richer, and the backwards religious fundamentalism permeating this administration. I strongly disliked and distrusted Reagan and think that George W. is even worse.
Actually, I think [Bush’s] presidency may exceed the disaster that was Nixon. He has systematically lied to the American public about almost every policy that his administration promotes.
Bush is perhaps the first president [since McKinley] to be entirely in the ‘hip pocket’ of big business, engage in major external conquest for reasons other than national security, AND be the puppet of his political handler. McKinley had Mark Hanna; Bush has Karl Rove. No wonder McKinley is Rove’s favorite historical president (precedent?).
Although previous presidents have led the nation into ill-advised wars, no predecessor managed to turn America into an unprovoked aggressor. No predecessor so thoroughly managed to confirm the impressions of those who already hated America. No predecessor so effectively convinced such a wide range of world opinion that America is an imperialist threat to world peace. I don 't think that you can do much worse than that
Bush is horrendous; there is no comparison with previous presidents, most of whom have been bad.
He is blatantly a puppet for corporate interests, who care only about their own greed and have no sense of civic responsibility or community service. He lies, constantly and often, seemingly without control, and he lied about his invasion into a sovereign country, again for corporate interests; many people have died and been maimed, and that has been lied about too. He grandstands and mugs in a shameful manner, befitting a snake oil salesman, not a statesman. He does not think, process, or speak well, and is emotionally immature due to, among other things, his lack of recovery from substance abuse. The term is "dry drunk". He is an abject embarrassment/pariah overseas; the rest of the world hates him . . . . . He is, by far, the most irresponsible, unethical, inexcusable occupant of our formerly highest office in the land that there has ever been.
This president is unique in his failures.
Each paragraph was a separate historian, by the way.
I bring this up because Victor is also a historian, albeit also a slatternly intellectual whore. I thought it might be refreshing to get the majority report in the case of Historians v. Bush.
But I have taken a large sidestep. Back to the vile missive.
Take the economy. In Bush’s first term the president ballooned the federal deficit. But that red ink wasn’t because of too little money coming in…No, the real culprit was overly liberal federal spending…The president did not veto a single spending proposal.
Thus we get Vile Victor’s first frame. Most conservatives hate spending. At least, that is, they hate spending when it’s coming from a Democrat. When a Republican does it, they’ll emit a little whimper and essentially wait for five years or so to really complain about it. They’ll wait for the Preznit’s JAR to drop below 40 then they’ll jump ship like rats.
I might add to Victor’s last sentence that Preznit Drinky’s little minions have been so obedient that he hasn’t vetoed a single bill of any kind. The Republican Party has locked down every branch of government for four years and kept every single Republican politdroid saying the same thing, voting for the same bills, no matter how criminal or disastrous.
Even the speakydroids in the media have been functioning perfectly. There is a reason I call Sean Hannity Talking Points. Every single day for the last three years I have been listening to him he has echoed the position of the Republican National Committee on every issue. Then it got creepier. I got a hold of some of the RNC DC Talkers Talking Points and caught Hannity reading off of them. Word for word. Over and over. Then he decided to take it to the next level and I caught him advocating positions a day or a week ahead of their release in the news via some Republican senator or think tank.
There is no doubt that Sean Hannity has Tapped the Deep Well of Republoconsciousness. That he has a fibrous cable connecting his brain with The Mother Brain. That any individual that once bore the name Sean Hannity has been replaced with just another Borg. He is not a journalist. He’s not even a propagandist. He’s an orifice.
But we digress again. To the rest of Victor’s missive:
Democrats have tried the “tax cuts for the wealthy” approach. But how is it that almost every American got some tax relief—and that most in the upper brackets still pay more than 50 percent of their salaries when federal, state, local, and payroll taxes are considered altogether?
Here Victor falls back on his usual ploy of simply making shit up as he goes along. The reason I have so much contempt for the man is the reason I have so much contempt for Gingrich: he’s a historian. His job is (was) to evaluate the truthfulness of sources and accurately describe past events. He should know better. He’s been taught better. I guarantee that Victor didn’t write his doctor’s thesis by baldly lying like he does in all his articles. Somewhere along the way he simply decided he didn’t give a shit about the truth.
First of all saying “Democrats have tried the “tax cuts for the wealthy” approach” and following that with the rest is essentially a non sequitor. As long as “almost every American got some tax relief” that somehow proves the tax cuts weren’t primarily for the wealthy. Secondly, his second sentence is completely untrue. Simply false. Not only that but it has never been true at any point in American history. Not only that but even if it was true it neither proves the upper classes are taxed heavily nor that the middle and lower class are taxed lightly. He doesn’t even do a comparative analysis of the tax burden of all the tax brackets. Nothing. Nada.
If this essay were submitted to my by a high schooler as part of an English or Politics class I would flunk him. Not only are there lies buttresses every craven argument, but the logic doesn’t even follow. It actually hurts my brain to try and follow his warped logic.
The Democrats face the same sort of dilemma in regard to Iraq, even though the war is currently unpopular…privately, Democrats concede that while going to war may have been naïve or idealistic, it was not done simply out of self interest.
Yup. This is another reason why I hate Vile Victor. He lies so frequently they pile up on each other and you have trouble finding out where one starts and another ends. Polls show that the majority of Democrats and even the majority of the public thinks that Preznit Drinky lied us into war, and this poll has been out and in the news forever, and Victor simple—guess what—makes shit up as he goes along.
Maybe he meant Democratic congresspeople, though it is beyond the scope of virtually any argument to guess what your opponent really meant. But if he did mean that, then where is he getting access to these private conversations? And how about some quotes? No? Some kind of evidence? No? They why are you wasting our time?
And since gas prices skyrocketed after Iraq, Democrats can hardly use "No blood for oil" sloganeering. Since Israel got out of Gaza, so much for any claims of a surrogate war for Israel. And since U.S. troops left Saudi Arabia, so much for the argument that the administration is after perpetual hegemony in the oil-rich Persian Gulf.
I sit, stunned. Silent. Victor has left mere duplicity behind long ago. He is at peace now, safely swimming in a Technicolor ocean of commutation of conditionals. Logic is far, far away. Sleep, Victor. Sleeep.
As progressives, are Democrats cynically to say that Arabs, unlike Eastern Europeans, Asians or Latin Americans, aren't ready for democracy? As admirers of John F. Kennedy, are they now to complain that we need to deal with the world as it is--not as we dream it might be?
Yes, Victor! Dream! Dream, you starry-eyed idealist! Your giant, conservative heart is just aching with love for Arabs, isn’t it!
At home, many supply-siders and libertarians charge that he is a big spender who is deluded for thinking the federal government can solve social problems by throwing more money at them.
Thus the conservatives complain about the one, shitty thing this president has done for Medicare: the incredibly complex and ineffective but somehow still expensive Medicare Prescription Drug Plan. Never mind that this president has cut funding for food stamps, Head Start, after school education programs, and welfare in general.
But as George W. Bush oddly seems to be doing many things a Democrat might have done, his base supporters stay with him. They see progress in Iraq (a war most Democrats in Congress once voted for). They know that the economy is strong and that the deficit is starting to decline. And they have nowhere to go anyway.
This shit pretty much Ipso Loquitor. I love “George W. Bush oddly seems to be doing many things a Democrat might have done.” I love how Victor reminds us that most Democrats voted for the war but says nothing about the lies they were told to get them there. I love how he mentions the “deficit is starting to decline” and doesn’t cite shit-all worth of numbers to show just how it is “starting” to decline.
Some still cry that the rich have become richer and the poor poorer, but there is little actual demand by Democrats for more taxes and more federal entitlements.
No real idea what planet he’s living on.
That's why instead of a real debate or an alternative agenda, we get more of the same old, same old: flushed Korans, federal blame for floods in New Orleans, or purported fibs by Lewis "Scooter" Libby--always on the outside chance that some misdemeanor might still turn into a Monica-like felony, and thus make up for Democrats' inability to provide a comprehensive alternative agenda.
Yes, yes, yes, Victor. All lies. Stories of abuse/the Taguba Report? This does not trouble Victor. The FEMA debacle? Pah! Perjury and obstruction of justice charges against Libby and the maybe others? Merely “purported fibs,” my good man! And nothing approaching Lewinsky levels!
Stunning. Baldly ridiculous. And proof positive that no matter how far down the sick path of minimization and ignorance you travel you will always have Victor Davis Hanson ahead of you. No matter how egregious the crimes of the present administration there will still be a quarter or a third of the population, including many apologists like Hanson, who will simply refuse to admit anything.
You can’t use reason and logic to get profligate liars and stooges like these to admit the truth. You just have to gather the center of the political spectrum to your side and then leave the Victors of this country behind. There are sociopaths still saying that Drinky isn’t so bad. But the better half of our populace will be the ones who write his obituary.
I think that if I ever actually met Victor at a cocktail party I would beat him like a dog with mange. I am honestly that tired of reading his hideously tendentious articles.
This particular one is so filled with lies that I wonder if he sat down with that intention in mind or if he is so disconnected from reality that this is a true reflection of the furniture of Hanson’s mind: chairs with three legs, tables nailed to the ceiling, and paintings hung upside-down.
AT first I think that perhaps Victor’s medication is finally kicking in, as he gives a summary of Clinton’s career that lurches its way towards being truthful, with only the occasional stumble:
Bill Clinton frustrated Republican critics. He passed welfare reform, waged a pre-emptive war against Slobodan Milosevic without either the approval of Congress or the United Nations, and reined in federal spending. And so, anguished conservatives had a hard times proving that, despite these accomplishments, he was a tax-and-spend bleeding heart.
Keep going, Victor. Almost, you pustulent, scabrous monster. Your burbling food-orifice almost mouthed the truth: Bill Clinton was a judicious, centrist president and the Republicans hated him just for being a Democrat. Say it. SAY IT!
Of course, the Evil Victor hasn’t quite given up his control of the food-orifice yet. The Evil Victor tosses in that little barb trying to equate the Balkans with Iraq. Nevermind that the war was conducted with the authorization and participation of NATO, that no US ground forces were ever used, that Slobodan Milosevic said he would and then tried to destroy the KLA and conquer Kosovo. That the war lasted six weeks. That we won with almost invisible casualties. That every European government was grateful for our participation.
The problem is Victor Davis Hanson can’t stop lying, even when he’s trying to be fair. He goes on to completely lose track of reality:
In the same sort of way, a detested-by-the-left George W. Bush has driven Democrats even crazier.
You noxious, raunchy cur. You wouldn’t tell the truth if you were rendered to Syria and beaten with cables. Your blood-soaked fore pincer just won’t write the truth. Democrats and independents don’t hate Dubya because they’re partisan. They hate him because he is perhaps the worst president in the long, sad history of this nation, and most of them have been bad. In fact, let’s diverge a little bit. Let’s take a look at what 80% of historians had to say in a recent survey about W, who they consider to be one of the worst presidents in history:
I think the presidency of George W. Bush has been generally a failure and I consider his presidency so far to have been the most disastrous since that of Ronald Reagan--because of the unconscionable military aggression and spending (especially the Iraq War), the damage done to the welfare of the poor while the corporate rich get richer, and the backwards religious fundamentalism permeating this administration. I strongly disliked and distrusted Reagan and think that George W. is even worse.
Actually, I think [Bush’s] presidency may exceed the disaster that was Nixon. He has systematically lied to the American public about almost every policy that his administration promotes.
Bush is perhaps the first president [since McKinley] to be entirely in the ‘hip pocket’ of big business, engage in major external conquest for reasons other than national security, AND be the puppet of his political handler. McKinley had Mark Hanna; Bush has Karl Rove. No wonder McKinley is Rove’s favorite historical president (precedent?).
Although previous presidents have led the nation into ill-advised wars, no predecessor managed to turn America into an unprovoked aggressor. No predecessor so thoroughly managed to confirm the impressions of those who already hated America. No predecessor so effectively convinced such a wide range of world opinion that America is an imperialist threat to world peace. I don 't think that you can do much worse than that
Bush is horrendous; there is no comparison with previous presidents, most of whom have been bad.
He is blatantly a puppet for corporate interests, who care only about their own greed and have no sense of civic responsibility or community service. He lies, constantly and often, seemingly without control, and he lied about his invasion into a sovereign country, again for corporate interests; many people have died and been maimed, and that has been lied about too. He grandstands and mugs in a shameful manner, befitting a snake oil salesman, not a statesman. He does not think, process, or speak well, and is emotionally immature due to, among other things, his lack of recovery from substance abuse. The term is "dry drunk". He is an abject embarrassment/pariah overseas; the rest of the world hates him . . . . . He is, by far, the most irresponsible, unethical, inexcusable occupant of our formerly highest office in the land that there has ever been.
This president is unique in his failures.
Each paragraph was a separate historian, by the way.
I bring this up because Victor is also a historian, albeit also a slatternly intellectual whore. I thought it might be refreshing to get the majority report in the case of Historians v. Bush.
But I have taken a large sidestep. Back to the vile missive.
Take the economy. In Bush’s first term the president ballooned the federal deficit. But that red ink wasn’t because of too little money coming in…No, the real culprit was overly liberal federal spending…The president did not veto a single spending proposal.
Thus we get Vile Victor’s first frame. Most conservatives hate spending. At least, that is, they hate spending when it’s coming from a Democrat. When a Republican does it, they’ll emit a little whimper and essentially wait for five years or so to really complain about it. They’ll wait for the Preznit’s JAR to drop below 40 then they’ll jump ship like rats.
I might add to Victor’s last sentence that Preznit Drinky’s little minions have been so obedient that he hasn’t vetoed a single bill of any kind. The Republican Party has locked down every branch of government for four years and kept every single Republican politdroid saying the same thing, voting for the same bills, no matter how criminal or disastrous.
Even the speakydroids in the media have been functioning perfectly. There is a reason I call Sean Hannity Talking Points. Every single day for the last three years I have been listening to him he has echoed the position of the Republican National Committee on every issue. Then it got creepier. I got a hold of some of the RNC DC Talkers Talking Points and caught Hannity reading off of them. Word for word. Over and over. Then he decided to take it to the next level and I caught him advocating positions a day or a week ahead of their release in the news via some Republican senator or think tank.
There is no doubt that Sean Hannity has Tapped the Deep Well of Republoconsciousness. That he has a fibrous cable connecting his brain with The Mother Brain. That any individual that once bore the name Sean Hannity has been replaced with just another Borg. He is not a journalist. He’s not even a propagandist. He’s an orifice.
But we digress again. To the rest of Victor’s missive:
Democrats have tried the “tax cuts for the wealthy” approach. But how is it that almost every American got some tax relief—and that most in the upper brackets still pay more than 50 percent of their salaries when federal, state, local, and payroll taxes are considered altogether?
Here Victor falls back on his usual ploy of simply making shit up as he goes along. The reason I have so much contempt for the man is the reason I have so much contempt for Gingrich: he’s a historian. His job is (was) to evaluate the truthfulness of sources and accurately describe past events. He should know better. He’s been taught better. I guarantee that Victor didn’t write his doctor’s thesis by baldly lying like he does in all his articles. Somewhere along the way he simply decided he didn’t give a shit about the truth.
First of all saying “Democrats have tried the “tax cuts for the wealthy” approach” and following that with the rest is essentially a non sequitor. As long as “almost every American got some tax relief” that somehow proves the tax cuts weren’t primarily for the wealthy. Secondly, his second sentence is completely untrue. Simply false. Not only that but it has never been true at any point in American history. Not only that but even if it was true it neither proves the upper classes are taxed heavily nor that the middle and lower class are taxed lightly. He doesn’t even do a comparative analysis of the tax burden of all the tax brackets. Nothing. Nada.
If this essay were submitted to my by a high schooler as part of an English or Politics class I would flunk him. Not only are there lies buttresses every craven argument, but the logic doesn’t even follow. It actually hurts my brain to try and follow his warped logic.
The Democrats face the same sort of dilemma in regard to Iraq, even though the war is currently unpopular…privately, Democrats concede that while going to war may have been naïve or idealistic, it was not done simply out of self interest.
Yup. This is another reason why I hate Vile Victor. He lies so frequently they pile up on each other and you have trouble finding out where one starts and another ends. Polls show that the majority of Democrats and even the majority of the public thinks that Preznit Drinky lied us into war, and this poll has been out and in the news forever, and Victor simple—guess what—makes shit up as he goes along.
Maybe he meant Democratic congresspeople, though it is beyond the scope of virtually any argument to guess what your opponent really meant. But if he did mean that, then where is he getting access to these private conversations? And how about some quotes? No? Some kind of evidence? No? They why are you wasting our time?
And since gas prices skyrocketed after Iraq, Democrats can hardly use "No blood for oil" sloganeering. Since Israel got out of Gaza, so much for any claims of a surrogate war for Israel. And since U.S. troops left Saudi Arabia, so much for the argument that the administration is after perpetual hegemony in the oil-rich Persian Gulf.
I sit, stunned. Silent. Victor has left mere duplicity behind long ago. He is at peace now, safely swimming in a Technicolor ocean of commutation of conditionals. Logic is far, far away. Sleep, Victor. Sleeep.
As progressives, are Democrats cynically to say that Arabs, unlike Eastern Europeans, Asians or Latin Americans, aren't ready for democracy? As admirers of John F. Kennedy, are they now to complain that we need to deal with the world as it is--not as we dream it might be?
Yes, Victor! Dream! Dream, you starry-eyed idealist! Your giant, conservative heart is just aching with love for Arabs, isn’t it!
At home, many supply-siders and libertarians charge that he is a big spender who is deluded for thinking the federal government can solve social problems by throwing more money at them.
Thus the conservatives complain about the one, shitty thing this president has done for Medicare: the incredibly complex and ineffective but somehow still expensive Medicare Prescription Drug Plan. Never mind that this president has cut funding for food stamps, Head Start, after school education programs, and welfare in general.
But as George W. Bush oddly seems to be doing many things a Democrat might have done, his base supporters stay with him. They see progress in Iraq (a war most Democrats in Congress once voted for). They know that the economy is strong and that the deficit is starting to decline. And they have nowhere to go anyway.
This shit pretty much Ipso Loquitor. I love “George W. Bush oddly seems to be doing many things a Democrat might have done.” I love how Victor reminds us that most Democrats voted for the war but says nothing about the lies they were told to get them there. I love how he mentions the “deficit is starting to decline” and doesn’t cite shit-all worth of numbers to show just how it is “starting” to decline.
Some still cry that the rich have become richer and the poor poorer, but there is little actual demand by Democrats for more taxes and more federal entitlements.
No real idea what planet he’s living on.
That's why instead of a real debate or an alternative agenda, we get more of the same old, same old: flushed Korans, federal blame for floods in New Orleans, or purported fibs by Lewis "Scooter" Libby--always on the outside chance that some misdemeanor might still turn into a Monica-like felony, and thus make up for Democrats' inability to provide a comprehensive alternative agenda.
Yes, yes, yes, Victor. All lies. Stories of abuse/the Taguba Report? This does not trouble Victor. The FEMA debacle? Pah! Perjury and obstruction of justice charges against Libby and the maybe others? Merely “purported fibs,” my good man! And nothing approaching Lewinsky levels!
Stunning. Baldly ridiculous. And proof positive that no matter how far down the sick path of minimization and ignorance you travel you will always have Victor Davis Hanson ahead of you. No matter how egregious the crimes of the present administration there will still be a quarter or a third of the population, including many apologists like Hanson, who will simply refuse to admit anything.
You can’t use reason and logic to get profligate liars and stooges like these to admit the truth. You just have to gather the center of the political spectrum to your side and then leave the Victors of this country behind. There are sociopaths still saying that Drinky isn’t so bad. But the better half of our populace will be the ones who write his obituary.
# posted by BitterHarvest @ 4:19 PM 
